Re: WIP: CoC

Bret,

Thanks. That made me feel much better.

I was about to walk out the door never to use PostgreSQL lists again because I thought Josh was an insensitive jerk flapping his wings about "respectful, collaborative"

, and I certainly violated the new "respectful" mantra buy calling his Coc a Vagina.

I was beginning to feel like everyone was against me.

Love,

Regina

From: Bret Stern [mailto:bret_stern(at)machinemanagement(dot)com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 11:01 AM
To: Regina Obe <lr(at)pcorp(dot)us>
Cc: 'James Keener' <jim(at)jimkeener(dot)com>; 'Psql_General (E-mail)' <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] WIP: CoC

On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 09:07 -0500, Regina Obe wrote:

> If the attacker goes public, we point people at the exchange that happened where Tom has presumably already discussed the reasons that the patch/feature/&c isn't being accepted.

If someone wanted to out someone, they would study them carefully. They would find Tom's buttons and push them.
They will show proof of Tom saying fuck you trans thing (probably something worse) and all that and it would be a bad reflection on Tom and our community.
It's because they don't have a Coc that Tom is such a jerk. They let the power get to his head.
They would have proof is my point in an email trail.

Luckily I think Tom doesn't have many visible buttons to push, but others in our community do.
Anyrate I think it's looking more like a Coc will hurt us more than do us good. This is beginning to feel too much like Highschool Lincoln-douglass debating which I never enjoyed.
I just want to get back to programming something useful.

Amen.

> I don't think I understand your point. So I get 100 friends to come here and ask for Tom to be outed, we ask for the reason and when they don't produce a valid one, nothing happens because none of us have any power.
They will ask, they'll point at a random link. Like this one -
https://twitter.com/krainboltgreene/status/611569515315507200

You'll be too lazy to read it and assume they read it and they are right. Tom will be persecuted for some link everyone was too lazy to read.
News of Tom's jerkiness would spread across the internet like a virus.
The jerk think would be echoed by everyone until everyone believes it and takes it to heart. "Tom is a big jerk. How can the PostgreSQL project allow such a jerk to be running the show."
Tom will feel bad and think - "No good deed goes unpunished", he'll step down.

THE END


Thanks,
Regina

In that vein..Being the insensitive MF that I am, I don't care what Tom says. Toms value (in the list) is his commitment to
the project and (for me) the last word on most topics..even if he is a liberal sob.
Feel the love,
Bret Stern