Re: Intermittent buildfarm failures on wrasse

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Intermittent buildfarm failures on wrasse
Date: 2022-04-14 00:35:50
Message-ID: 1374062.1649896550@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:51 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> Yeah, we have band-aided around this type of problem repeatedly.
>> Making a fix that's readily accessible from any test script
>> seems like a good idea.

> We might even be able to consistently rely on this new option, given
> *any* problem involving test stability and VACUUM. Having a
> one-size-fits-all solution to these kinds of stability problems would
> be nice -- no more DISABLE_PAGE_SKIPPING bandaids.

My guess is that you'd need both this new wait-for-horizon behavior
*and* DISABLE_PAGE_SKIPPING. But the two together ought to make
for pretty reproducible behavior. I noticed while scanning the
commit log that some patches have tried adding a FREEZE option,
which seems more like waving a dead chicken than anything that'd
improve stability.

We'd not necessarily have to embed wait-for-horizon into VACUUM
itself. It seems like a SQL-accessible function could be written
and then called before any problematic VACUUM. I like this better
for something we're thinking of jamming in post-feature-freeze;
we'd not be committing to the feature quite as much as if we
added a VACUUM option.

regards, tom lane

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