Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Global Development Group

From: Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)tr(dot)net>
To: PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Global Development Group
Date: 2002-12-14 15:58:29
Message-ID: 1039881509.11851.64.camel@demo.tdm.com.tr
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Hi,

On Sat, 2002-12-14 at 13:26, mlw wrote:

> MySQL is an appalling database, but people use it, a lot! Why? Because
> they really market it. They push it. They craft deceptive benchmarks
> which show it is better. PostgreSQL doesn't even need to be deceptive.
>
<snip>
> Furthermore, I think it would be very rewarding for everyone involved if
> we could get some of the "street cred" that MySQL has. PostgreSQL *is* a
> better database in almost every way. If MySQL virtually owns the open
> source mind share for SQL databases, it is our fault.

I do NOT like hearing about MySQL in this (these) list(s).

PostgreSQL is not in the same category with MySQL. MySQL is for
*dummies*, not database admins. I do not even call it a database. I
have never forgotten my data loss 2,5 years ago; when I used MySQL for
just 2 months!!!

If we want to "sell" PostgreSQL, we should talk about, maybe, Oracle.
I have never took care of MySQL said. I just know that I'm running
PostgreSQL since 2,5 years and I only stopped it "JUST" before upgrades
of PostgreSQL. It's just *working*; which is unfamiliar to MySQL users.

I've presented about 28 seminars in last 12 months on PostgreSQL... In
all of them, I always tried to avoid talking about MySQL. But always
"hit" Oracle. I'm sick of hearing such sentences : "We paid $$$$ to
Oracle, we hold 1 GB of data!". Even MySQL can hold that amount of data
:-)

Also, I have something to say about win32 port.

I'm a Linux user. I'm happy that PostgreSQL does not have win32 version.
If someone wants to use a real database server, then they should install
Linux (or *bsd,etc). This is what Oracle offers,too. Native Windows
support will cause some problems; such as some dummy windows users will
begin using it. I do not believe that PostgreSQL needs native windowz
support.

So, hackers (I'm not a hacker) should decide whether PostgreSQL should
be used widely in real database apps, or it should be used even by dummy
users?

I prefer the first one, if we want to compete with Oracle; not MySQL.

Best regards,

--
Devrim GUNDUZ
TR.NET System Support Specialist
devrim(at)tr(dot)net

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