Re: CURRENT OF cursor without OIDs

From: Ian Lance Taylor <ian(at)airs(dot)com>
To: Hiroshi Inoue <Inoue(at)tpf(dot)co(dot)jp>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: CURRENT OF cursor without OIDs
Date: 2001-08-08 01:05:02
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Hiroshi Inoue <Inoue(at)tpf(dot)co(dot)jp> writes:

> > > > Ian Lance Taylor <ian(at)airs(dot)com> writes:
> > > > > Anyhow, I see that there is a move afoot to eliminate mandatory OIDs.
> > > > > My question now is: if there is no OID, is there any comparable way to
> > > > > implement CURRENT OF cursor? Basically what is needed is some way to
> > > > > identify a particular row between a SELECT and an UPDATE.
> > > >
> > > > I'd look at using TID. Seems like that is more efficient anyway (no
> > > > index needed). Hiroshi has opined that TID is not sufficient for ODBC
> > > > cursors, but it seems to me that it is sufficient for SQL cursors.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes TID is available and I introduced Tid Scan in order
> > > to support this kind of implementation. However there
> > > are some notices.
> > > 1) Is *FOR UPDATE* cursor allowed in PL/pgSQL ?
> > > (It doesn't seem easy for me).
> >
> > No, it is not supported right now.
> >
> > Conceptually, however, PL/pgSQL could pull out the FOR UPDATE clause
> > and turn it into an explicit LOCK statement.
>
> It's impossible to realize *FOR UPDATE* using LOCK statement.
> Each row must be locked individually to prevent UPDATE/DELETE
> operations for the row. You could acquire an EXCLUSIVE
> LOCK on the table but it doesn't seem preferable.

It's definitely not preferable, but how else can it be done?

> I'm planning to implement updatable cursors with no lock
> using TID and OID. TID is for the fast access and OID is
> to verify the identity. OID doesn't provide a specific
> access method in the first place and the access would be
> veeery slow for large tables unless there's an index on OID.

I apologize if I've missed something, but how will that work when OIDs
become optional?

Ian

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