| From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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| To: | Greg Burd <greg(at)burd(dot)me> |
| Cc: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Dave Cramer <davecramer(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Subject: | Re: [PATCH] Fix ARM64/MSVC atomic memory ordering issues on Win11 by adding explicit DMB barriers |
| Date: | 2025-11-21 00:07:42 |
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Hi,
On 2025-11-20 19:03:47 -0500, Andres Freund wrote:
> > MSVC's _InterlockedCompareExchange() intrinsic on ARM64 performs the
> > atomic operation but does NOT emit the necessary Data Memory Barrier
> > (DMB) instructions [4][5].
>
> I couldn't reproduce this result when playing around on godbolt. By specifying
> /arch:armv9.4 msvc can be convinced to emit the code for the intrinsics inline
> (at least for most of them). And that makes it visible that
> _InterlockedCompareExchange() results in a "casal" instruction. Looking that
> up shows:
> https://developer.arm.com/documentation/dui0801/l/A64-Data-Transfer-Instructions/CASA--CASAL--CAS--CASL--CASAL--CAS--CASL--A64-
> which includes these two statements:
> "CASA and CASAL load from memory with acquire semantics."
> "CASL and CASAL store to memory with release semantics."
Further evidence for that is that
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winnt/nf-winnt-interlockedcompareexchange
states:
"This function generates a full memory barrier (or fence) to ensure that memory operations are completed in order."
(note that we are using the function, not the intrinsic for TAS())
Greetings,
Andres
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