Re: hibernate + postgresql ?

From: "Usama Dar" <munir(dot)usama(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: "Oleg Bartunov" <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>, pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: hibernate + postgresql ?
Date: 2007-11-29 16:00:52
Message-ID: ff0e67090711290800v38464edxbafb19749225a705@mail.gmail.com
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i has exactly the same discussion with a bunch of java developers over the
use of Hibernate with Postgres, and most of them feel that it gives them the
ability to write code and not worry about which backend will be plugged in
Oracle or postgres or Mysql and any other, if you are using it with
something like spring you just need to change a bunch of xml files and you
are good to go . i guess its the java school of thought they like to be
*platform independent*

On Nov 29, 2007 8:52 PM, Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:

> Oleg Bartunov wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > any exprerience with Hibernate + PostgreSQL ? How does this combination
> > is flexible and smart ? Is't possible to tune selected queries ?
>
> In short, it sucks :).
>
> Long description: Hibernate is a mature ORM for Java. It is in use with
> PostgreSQL in quite a few installations and even a bunch that we are
> responsible for. It does work as well as any ORM can work.
>
> The problem is, its an ORM and ORMs are dumb in there actual ability to
> work with any real relational database.
>
> If you are not lazy you can push outside the standard hibernate methods
> and produce very usable code but then you have to wonder why you have
> hibernate there at all.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Oleg
> > _____________________________________________________________
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