Re: glibc initdb options vs icu compatibility questions (PG15)

From: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>
To: Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Robert Sjöblom <robert(dot)sjoblom(at)fortnox(dot)se>, pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: glibc initdb options vs icu compatibility questions (PG15)
Date: 2023-01-16 15:47:54
Message-ID: fc4d9f99-acaa-0a62-52e1-35f9846a6834@joeconway.com
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On 1/16/23 08:26, Laurenz Albe wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-01-16 at 09:30 +0100, Robert Sjöblom wrote:
>> We have a fleet of postgres 10 servers (1 primary, 2 replicas) that
>> we're now planning to upgrade. We've historically been forced to use the
>> same distro (centos7) and libc version, or rely on pg_dump/restore,
>> across pg versions due to the fact that the servers/databases were
>> initialized with the following options:
>> --lc-collate=sv_SE.UTF-8
>>
>> We're upgrading all servers to pg15 through logical replication, and
>> with that we'd like to remove our dependency on any specific libc
>> version (to avoid corruption issues etc). We hope to do this by
>> initializing our pg15 clusters with swedish icu locale
>> (--icu-locale=sv-SE-x-icu). By using icu like this, we should have the
>> same sorting behavior as the pg10 servers have today? By our
>> understanding, we then should be able to use physical replication across
>> different OS versions, without worrying about index corruption etc?
>>
>> According to
>> http://peter.eisentraut.org/blog/2022/09/26/icu-features-in-postgresql-15,
>> we still need to set a regular libc locale/option; does this mean that
>> the dependency on libc is still present as it pertains to corruption
>> issues and being forced to use the same libc version across all replicas?
>
> I'd say no. The problem is the collation, and for that, the ICU
> collation will be used.

check

> The libc locale is for other aspects of locale.

Although I am not aware of any specific/known issues, keep in mind that
there is still a possibility of changes across major glibc versions for
things affected by LC_CTYPE, LC_TIME, LC_MONETARY, and LC_NUMERIC -
lower()/upper() for example.

--
Joe Conway
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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