| From: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi> |
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| To: | Alexander Kuzmenkov <akuzmenkov(at)tigerdata(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Anthonin Bonnefoy <anthonin(dot)bonnefoy(at)datadoghq(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Fix uninitialized xl_running_xacts padding |
| Date: | 2026-03-10 22:09:14 |
| Message-ID: | ed73b90b-e153-41ba-a626-2e13da42d6c8@iki.fi |
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On 10/03/2026 23:51, Alexander Kuzmenkov wrote:
> On 16/02/2026 21:10, Andres Freund wrote:
>> I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to tackle this
>> specifically for
>> xl_running_xacts. Until now we just accepted that WAL insertions can
>> contain
>> random padding. If we don't want that, we should go around and make
>> sure that
>> there is no padding (or padding is initialized) for *all* WAL records,
>> document that as the rule, and remove the relevant valgrind suppressions.
>
> That's not random, that's server memory, right? Probably not another
> Heartbleed, but I'd rather initialize a few locals than find out.
>
> Happy to see this being worked on, these uninitialized WAL records are a
> major obstacle to enabling MemorySanitizer. I ran into this again today
> and this is how I found this thread. Unfortunately the MemorySanitizer
> can't even use the same suppressions as Valgrind, because the
> suppression architecture is different (can only remove the checks from a
> given function, not all stack traces that have this function like
> Valgrind does).
+1 for initializing all padding in WAL records. In fact I thought that
we already did that. (Except in this case, apparently)
- Heikki
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