| From: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
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| To: | Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: pgsql: Add pg_atomic_unlocked_write_u64 |
| Date: | 2025-12-04 17:30:28 |
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Hi,
On 2025-12-04 10:03:22 -0600, Nathan Bossart wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 04, 2025 at 10:56:12AM -0500, Andres Freund wrote:
> > The whole point of the _unlocked_ function is to use it for modifying an
> > atomic that doesn't need to actually be atomic when modified by that
> > function. The current use-case for it is to to modify BufferDesc->state for
> > temporary table buffers. Those obviously can't be shared across processes and
> > therefore don't need an atomic operation to be modified. In the referenced
> > thread I'm working on converting BufferDesc->state to be a 64bit atomic, hence
> > the need for pg_atomic_unlocked_write_u64().
> >
> > I didn't notice that the comment for pg_atomic_unlocked_write_u32() makes that
> > claim about partial writes not being visible. I think we should just remove
> > that claim.
>
> +1 to updating the comment with this context.
Hm. Aside from the above issue, the reference to atomics emulation in the
comment is also obsolete since 81385261362.
How about:
/*
* pg_atomic_unlocked_write_u32 - unlocked write to atomic variable.
*
* Write to an atomic variable, without atomicity guarantees. I.e. it is not
* guaranteed that a concurent reader will not see a torn value, nor to
* guaranteed to correctly interact with concurrent read-modify-write
* operations like pg_atomic_compare_exchange_u32. This should only be used
* in cases where minor performance regressions due to atomic operations are
* unacceptable and where exclusive access is guaranteed due to some external
* means.
*
* No barrier semantics.
*/
We could actually guarantee, in the 32bit case, that a concurrent reader would
not see a torn value, but ISTM that any such user should not use _unlocked_,
and this way we don't need separate documentation for the 64bit case.
Greetings,
Andres Freund
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