Re: initdb recommendations

From: Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "Jonathan S(dot) Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Subject: Re: initdb recommendations
Date: 2019-05-24 11:48:11
Message-ID: df011ad3-f1a3-149e-3489-2d68e6ea21a7@joeconway.com
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On 5/23/19 10:30 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> * Tom Lane (tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us) wrote:
>> "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org> writes:
>> > For now I have left in the password based method to be scram-sha-256 as
>> > I am optimistic about the support across client drivers[1] (and FWIW I
>> > have an implementation for crystal-pg ~60% done).
>>
>> > However, this probably means we would need to set the default password
>> > encryption guc to "scram-sha-256" which we're not ready to do yet, so it
>> > may be moot to leave it in.
>>
>> > So, thinking out loud about that, we should probably use "md5" and once
>> > we decide to make the encryption method "scram-sha-256" by default, then
>> > we update the recommendation?
>>
>> Meh. If we're going to break things, let's break them. Set it to
>> scram by default and let people who need to cope with old clients
>> change the default. I'm tired of explaining that MD5 isn't actually
>> insecure in our usage ...
>
> +many.

many++

Are we doing this for pg12? In any case, I would think we better loudly
point out this change somewhere.

Joe

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