Re: Clarifying "server starting" messaging in pg_ctl start without --wait

From: Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)BlueTreble(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Ryan Murphy <ryanfmurphy(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Clarifying "server starting" messaging in pg_ctl start without --wait
Date: 2016-12-24 00:25:30
Message-ID: d660bbc0-9096-1e9b-f9de-1c7b153a0648@BlueTreble.com
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On 12/23/16 6:10 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> Is there still a use case for --no-wait in the real world?
>
> Sure. Most system startup scripts aren't going to want to wait.
> If we take it out those people will go back to starting the postmaster
> by hand.

Presumably they could just background it... since it's not going to be
long-lived it's presumably not that big a deal. Though, seems like many
startup scripts like to make sure what they're starting is actually working.

What might be interesting is a mode that waited for everything but
recovery so at least you know the config is valid, the port is
available, etc. That would be much harder to handle externally.

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