Re: Change initdb default to the builtin collation provider

On 11.10.25 02:48, Jeff Davis wrote:
> The builtin provider uses code point order, i.e. memcmp(), so the
> final result display order is less human-friendly. For instance, 'Z'
> comes before 'a'.
>
> That problem is annoying, but*much* easier to fix than the other
> factors. The user might add a COLLATE clause to the final ORDER BY, or
> perform the sort in the application layer or presentation layer.

I remain violently opposed to this idea. I don't understand how it
could be acceptable to just not provide a good display order by default
and have everyone rewrite their queries.

> ICU is better than libc in a lot of ways:
>
> * Better performance
> * Platform-independent
> * Easier to manage it as a separate library
>
> But fundamentally, I don't think it's a great default, because it
> favors final result display order at the risk of primary key
> inconsistencies.

I don't understand. We have a versioning system for ICU collations?
Does it not work?