Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode

From: Mark Kirkwood <mark(dot)kirkwood(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz>
To: Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Adrien NAYRAT <adrien(dot)nayrat(at)anayrat(dot)info>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Remove Deprecated Exclusive Backup Mode
Date: 2019-02-26 05:16:34
Message-ID: bb4d5665-cc1c-07a2-da6d-7da9aa1133aa@catalyst.net.nz
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On 26/02/19 5:41 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> Greetings Mark,
>
> * Mark Kirkwood (mark(dot)kirkwood(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz) wrote:
>> ISTM that the onus should be on the patch submitter to provide additions to
>> pg_basebackup that make it as painless as possible for those people *not*
>> using pgBackRest to continue making backups. Breaking this is just not
>> right. Submitting patches that mean that people *must* use pgBackRest is
>> also not right IMHO.
> I'm sorry that there's some confusion here- to be clear, no one is
> required to use pgBackRest. pg_basebackup works quite well and wouldn't
> be impacted by the changes proposed no this thread. The arguments
> against removing the exclusive backup feature don't have anything to do
> with pg_basebackup.
>
Ah yes (checks pg_basbackup code), you are correct! Reading this thread
I thought I saw a comment to the effect that pg_basebackup was being
broken, hence the less than impressed post.

Your relentless bashing of people doing their own backups and heavy
marketing of pgBackRest - unfortunately - made it easy for me to believe
that this was a possibility that you might see as ok. So - apologies for
the misunderstanding, however less marketing of your own product would
avoid me jumping to the wrong conclusion.

regards

Mark

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