Re: GiST, caching, and consistency

From: Matthew Wakeling <matthew(at)flymine(dot)org>
To: Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: GiST, caching, and consistency
Date: 2009-08-05 10:20:18
Message-ID: alpine.DEB.2.00.0908051104590.18938@aragorn.flymine.org
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Greg Stark wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Robert Haas<robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> Beats me.  It looks like the first few queries are pulling stuff into
>> cache, and then after that it settles down, but I'm not sure why it
>> takes 5 repetitions to do that.  Is the plan changing?
>
> Yeah, we're just guessing without the explain analyze output.
>
> But as long as we're guessing, perhaps it's doing a sequential scan on
> one of the tables and each query is reading in new parts of the table
> until the whole table is in cache. Is this a machine with lots of RAM
> but a small setting for shared_buffers?

modmine_overlap_test=# explain analyse select count(*) from (select * FROM
locatedsequencefeatureoverlappingfeatures limit 1000000) AS a;

QUERY PLAN
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aggregate (cost=478847.24..478847.25 rows=1 width=0)
(actual time=27546.424..27546.428 rows=1 loops=1)
-> Limit (cost=0.01..466347.23 rows=1000000 width=8)
(actual time=0.104..24349.407 rows=1000000 loops=1)
-> Nested Loop
(cost=0.01..9138533.31 rows=19595985 width=8)
(actual time=0.099..17901.571 rows=1000000 loops=1)
Join Filter: (l1.subjectid <> l2.subjectid)
-> Seq Scan on location l1
(cost=0.00..90092.22 rows=4030122 width=16)
(actual time=0.013..11.467 rows=3396 loops=1)
-> Index Scan using location_object_bioseg on location l2
(cost=0.01..1.46 rows=35 width=16)
(actual time=0.130..3.339 rows=295 loops=3396)
Index Cond: ((l2.objectid = l1.objectid) AND (bioseg_create(l1.intermine_start, l1.intermine_end) && bioseg_create(l2.intermine_start, l2.intermine_end)))
Total runtime: 27546.534 ms
(8 rows)

Time: 27574.164 ms

It is certainly doing a sequential scan. So are you saying that it will
start a sequential scan from a different part of the table each time, even
in the absence of other simultaneous sequential scans? Looks like I'm
going to have to remove the limit to get sensible results - I only added
that to make the query return in a sensible time for performance testing.

Some trivial testing with "select * from location limit 10;" indicates
that it starts the sequential scan in the same place each time - but is
this different from the above query?

To answer your question:

shared_buffers = 450MB
Machine has 16GB or RAM
The location table is 389 MB
The location_object_bioseg index is 182 MB

Matthew

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