| From: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
|---|---|
| To: | Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net> |
| Cc: | Kirk Parker <khp(at)equatoria(dot)us>, Richard Neill <rjn(at)richardneill(dot)org>, github(at)richardneill(dot)org, pgsql-docs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: Please clarify that Timestamp with Timezone doesn't preserve the timezone. |
| Date: | 2026-05-14 12:05:23 |
| Message-ID: | agW6gzVtz73ZUjNn@momjian.us |
| Views: | Whole Thread | Raw Message | Download mbox | Resend email |
| Thread: | |
| Lists: | pgsql-docs |
On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 07:57:21AM -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
> > I see your point. I went with adding the wording "no time zone
> > adjustment" and "with time zone adjustment" in the table. Patch
> > attached. You can see the output at:
>
> The quibble I have with the term "time zone adjustment" is that it
> implies there will be some adjustment, but while you can change your
> timezone preferences to display a timestamptz value in whatever time
> zone you want, the value itself is never adjusted; it is stored as a
> universal moment in time that doesn't change, regardless of the window
> dressing around it. For this reason I have taken to describing that
> difference between the two as that timestamptz stores the date and
> time with timezone awareness, and timestamp is date and time with no
> timezone awareness. Perhaps that might work better here as well?
I used "adjustment" because the value is adjusted on input, and adjusted
on output. I would say the value is not "aware" of the time zone
because once it is internally stored as UTC it is no longer aware of the
original time zone.
--
Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> https://momjian.us
EDB https://enterprisedb.com
Do not let urgent matters crowd out time for investment in the future.
| From | Date | Subject | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Next Message | Shinya Kato | 2026-05-14 12:14:27 | Re: doc: Clarify ANALYZE VERBOSE output |
| Previous Message | Robert Treat | 2026-05-14 11:57:21 | Re: Please clarify that Timestamp with Timezone doesn't preserve the timezone. |