| From: | Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Sami Imseih <samimseih(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Treat <rob(at)xzilla(dot)net>, satyanarlapuram(at)gmail(dot)com, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Add pg_stat_autovacuum_priority |
| Date: | 2026-04-04 16:33:09 |
| Message-ID: | adE9RbcA7lhH_w2d@nathan |
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On Sat, Apr 04, 2026 at 10:32:07AM -0500, Sami Imseih wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 04, 2026 at 08:25:26AM -0500, Sami Imseih wrote:
>> > "Scores greater than or equal to <literal>1.0</literal>" in the comments
>> > of each field are misleading. This conflates scoring with vacuum/analyze
>> > eligibility and it's possible with a autovacuum_*_weight < 1.0 to trigger an
>> > autovacuum/analyze.
>>
>> Ah, that's unfortunate. I think it'd be good to give folks some idea of
>> what autovacuum will actually process. I wonder if we could adjust the
>> documentation accordingly.
>
> That's why I thought having the bool fields made sense in the earlier
> versions of the view. Since autovacuum is dealing with 2 concepts:
>
> eligibility: is av enabled and is the table meeting thresholds
> score: The priority of how the eligible tables will be processed.
>
> So, while this could be explained in docs, I think it's better we report
> these fields.
I understand your position, but I still worry about potential confusion if
when dovacuum and needs_vacuum differ. And I don't know how much we really
ought to be tailoring this stuff to clusters where autovacuum is disabled
or where the scores are being adjusted. Also, I think we ought to go into
more detail in the documentation, anyway. So my instinct was to do
something more like the attached.
If we did report booleans, I would probably argue for just reporting
dovacuum and doanalyze and calling out the criteria for why they may be
false even when it looks like the table needs processing.
--
nathan
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| v10-0001-refactor-autovacuum-subroutine-in-preparation-fo.patch | text/plain | 6.1 KB |
| v10-0002-add-pg_stat_autovacuum_scores-system-view.patch | text/plain | 12.9 KB |
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