| From: | Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> | 
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| To: | Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> | 
| Cc: | Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, "suyu(dot)cmj" <mengjuan(dot)cmj(at)alibaba-inc(dot)com>, "bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres" <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> | 
| Subject: | Re: Question about InvalidatePossiblyObsoleteSlot() | 
| Date: | 2025-10-30 02:25:18 | 
| Message-ID: | aQLMjv1Urx5HIhc3@paquier.xyz | 
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 08:55:56AM +0000, Bertrand Drouvot wrote:
> Done that way in v3 attached. Please note that v3 does not take into account
> the XLogRecPtrIsInvalid() remark as this will be part of a global effort and
> it's not directly linked to what we want to achieve here.
This comment related to inactive_since that you have moved to its new
location has been added by ac0e33136abc, for v18~.  Agreed that it is
important to keep that documented.  The new location of this comment
feels OK.
> That's the test instability that triggered 818fefd8fd4 and not any report
> from the field. I think that pre-818fefd8fd4 behavior has been there for a
> while and that hitting the inconsistency is a pathological case. I'd vote for
> do nothing unless we get complaints from the field.
I am not sure that there is anything else to be done, but let's just
revert the change in v16~ for now.  As far as I can see, the change is
straight-forward in v16, slightly funky in v17 as "invalidation_cause"
is a rename of "conflict", while your patch captures the refactoring
of v18~ under DetermineSlotInvalidationCause().  I have run a few
hundred loops of 035_standby_logical_decoding for v16 and v17, in
case, without seeing problems.  Now the original race was also hard to
see.
--
Michael
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