Re: A recent message added to pg_upgade

From: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com, alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: A recent message added to pg_upgade
Date: 2023-11-09 04:54:54
Message-ID: ZUxmHgSmi5CXTvZV@paquier.xyz
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On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 09:53:07AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2023 at 4:16 PM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> But then we don't need the hardcoded value of
>> max_logical_replication_workers as zero by pg_upgrade. I think doing
>> IsBinaryUpgrade for slots won't be neat, so we anyway need to keep
>> using the special value of max_slot_wal_keep_size GUC. Though the
>> handling for both won't be the same but I guess given the situation,
>> that seems like a reasonable thing to do. If we follow that then we
>> can have this special GUC hook only for max_slot_wal_keep_size GUC.
>
> Michael, Horiguchi-San, and others, do you have any thoughts on what
> is the best way to proceed?

No problem for me to use a GUC hook for the WAL retention GUCs if you
feel strongly about it at the end, but I'd rather use an approach
based on IsBinaryUpgrade for the logical worker launcher to be
consistent with autovacuum (where there's also an argument to refactor
it to use a bgworker registration, centralizing the checks on
IsBinaryUpgrade for all bgworkers, but that would be material for a
different thread, if there's interest in doing that).

The two situations we are trying to prevent (slot invalidation and
bgworker launch) can be triggered under different contexts, so they
don't have to use the same mechanisms to prevent what should not
happen during an upgrade.
--
Michael

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