| From: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> | 
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| To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> | 
| Cc: | Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Fernando Nasser <fnasser(at)redhat(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>, Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> | 
| Subject: | Re: postgres --help-config | 
| Date: | 2003-10-15 06:20:39 | 
| Message-ID: | Pine.LNX.4.44.0310150813590.22628-100000@peter.localdomain | 
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Tom Lane writes:
> It'd be better if we could get it right the first time, with the
> understanding that the output format is not very negotiable at this
> late hour.  But as best I can tell, most of the unhappiness is with the
> design of the switch set, which is not something I want to defend in
> detail.  There's a lot there that isn't needed for the RHDB tool as I
> understand it, and I think that altering the switches used to get the
> output that the tool does need would still be a feasible change from the
> tool's point of view.
I have some more questions:
- When the set of GUC properties (when to set, how to set, etc.) change,
  what is the upgrade path?  Remember that we change those a lot.
- Who is going to maintain the descriptions in this very special "GNU
  trick" format?  I can happily agree if we had a short description that
  is shown in an overview list, and an long description that is shown when
  the option is opened up in its own window, but I don't agree with with
  the current format.  At least not in the way it was explained to me,
  maybe I'm misunderstanding.
> I would be in favor of simplifying the supported switch set to the
> minimum needed by Red Hat's tool (the equivalent of -G -M if I
> understood Fernando correctly), and re-adding complexity in future
> when and if it's shown to be needed.  But we need to make a decision
> about this now.  Preferably yesterday.
I propose we rip out everything except --help-config -m that shows the
information in the "machine-readable" tab separated format without
headers.  If someone can answer the two questions above.
-- 
Peter Eisentraut   peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net
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