Re: Win2K Questions

From: "scott(dot)marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)ihs(dot)com>
To: Jean-Luc Lachance <jllachan(at)nsd(dot)ca>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Charles H(dot) Woloszynski" <chw(at)clearmetrix(dot)com>, Richard Huxton <dev(at)archonet(dot)com>, <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Win2K Questions
Date: 2002-11-08 21:05:10
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.33.0211081404040.10463-100000@css120.ihs.com
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but how do you handle the case where two people have two different
connections, and one starts a serializable transaction and adds n rows to
the table. For that transaction, there are x+n rows in the table, while
for the transaction started before his, there are only x rows. which is
the "right" answer?

On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Jean-Luc Lachance wrote:

> Here is a suggestion.
>
> When a count(*) is computed (for all records) store that value and
> unvalidate it if there is a later insert or delete on the table. Next
> improvement would be to maintain a count per active transaction.
>
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >
> > Charles H. Woloszynski wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard Huxton wrote:
> > >
> > > >Depends on usage patterns and how you build your application. There are a
> > > >couple of oddities with workarounds: count() and max() aren't very optimised
> > > >for example.
> > > >
> > > You can 'fix' the max() SNAFU with a new query of the form
> > > "select field from tbl limit 1 order by field desc" (not precise
> > > syntax, but the idea is correct)
> > >
> > > I call it a SNAFU since it I hate to have to change queries from
> > > something obvious to a more obscure format just to work around
> > > an optimizer issue.
> > >
> > > Not sure if there is an equivalent query to make count() work
> > > faster
> >
> > The problem with optimizing COUNT() is that different backends have
> > different tuple views, meaning the count from one backend could be
> > different than from another backend. I can't see how to optimize that.
> > Does oracle do it? Maybe by looking their redo segements. We don't
> > have those because redo is stored in the main table.
> >
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