Re: [PATCHES] Re: [PATCH] Re: Setuid functions

From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
To: Mark Volpe <volpe(dot)mark(at)epa(dot)gov>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, Mark Volpe <volpe(dot)mark(at)epamail(dot)epa(dot)gov>, PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHES] Re: [PATCH] Re: Setuid functions
Date: 2001-07-12 14:51:39
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.30.0107121648050.681-100000@peter.localdomain
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Mark Volpe writes:

> Good point. Would the issue be resolved by either:
>
> - Only allowing the database superuser to use this mechanism?

If you mean "only allow a superuser do define functions using this
mechanism", that could work. But it would probably make this feature a
lot less attractive, because any setuid function would have to run with
super powers.

> - Allowing it only in trigger functions? (That way a user has to actually own
> one of the tables)

Your premise is no longer correct in 7.2devel.

>
> Mark
>
> Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> >
> > Bruce Momjian writes:
> >
> > > > Peter might be referring to this:
> > > >
> > > > http://fts.postgresql.org/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1022775
> > > >
> > > > There was some discussion afterward, but I don't think a definite conclusion
> > > > was reached.
> > >
> > > But I see Tom Lane saying he doesn't see a security issue:
> > >
> > > http://fts.postgresql.org/db/mw/msg.html?mid=1022758
> > >
> > > I don't pretend to understand it. Just tell me what to do with the
> > > patch. :-)
> >
> > The problem with setuid functions in general is that a database user can
> > effectively re-grant privileges to which he has no grant privileges.
> > E.g.,
> >
> > user1=> create table table1 (id int, secret_content text);
> > user1=> grant select on test to user2;
> >
> > /* made up the syntax */
> > user2=> create function testfunc (int) returns text as '
> > user2'> begin
> > user2'> set authorization definer;
> > user2'> return select secret_content from table1 where id = $1;
> > user2'> end;' as 'plpgsql';
> >
> > user3=> select * from table1 where id = 5;
> > (fails)
> > user3=> select testfunc(5);
> > (succeeds)
> >
> > Tom has a point that as soon as user2 has the select privilege, he can
> > make a private copy of table1 and send it to user3.
> >
> > But if you take this attitude you might as well get rid of the
> > fine-grained privilege system, you'd just need 'select to public'. Also,
> > there may be other security or at least auditing mechanisms to supervise
> > the communication between user2 and user3. Or maybe user2 and user3 are
> > just pseudo-users implementing some sort of "least privilege" paranoid
> > design.
> >
> > At least we should discuss whether we'd eventually like to have grantable
> > privileges, and if so, how this would fit in.
> >
> > --
> > Peter Eisentraut peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net http://funkturm.homeip.net/~peter
>
>

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Peter Eisentraut peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net http://funkturm.homeip.net/~peter

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