| From: | "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com> |
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| To: | 'Amit Kapila' <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | ls7777 <ls7777(at)yandex(dot)ru>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "orlovmg(at)gmail(dot)com" <orlovmg(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Subject: | RE: Patch for migration of the pg_commit_ts directory |
| Date: | 2026-02-20 11:05:37 |
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Dear Amit,
> One of
> the use case I recall is to detect conflicts with accuracy after
> upgrade. See docs [1] ("Commit timestamps and origin data are not
> preserved during the upgrade. ..) I think this note needs an update
> after this patch.
Right, and code comments [a] should be also updated.
BTW, is there a possibility that we can export and import xmin of the conflict
slot to retain dead tuples even after the upgrade? Of course it's out-of-scope
from this thread.
> res = executeQueryOrDie(conn, "SELECT setting FROM pg_settings "
> + "WHERE name = 'track_commit_timestamp'");
> + track_commit_timestamp_on = strcmp(PQgetvalue(res, 0, 0), "on") == 0;
>
> As this is a boolean variable, what if the user sets the value of this
> GUC as true, will the above work correctly?
Per my understanding, it is OK to use "on"/"off" notation. Below contains the
analysis.
pg_settings uses an SQL function pg_show_all_settings, and it is implemneted by
the C function show_all_settings(). And GetConfigOptionValues()->ShowGUCOption()
actualy create the output for the setting column in the view. According to the
function, the boolean would be the either "on" or "off" unless the GUC has show_hook.
```
switch (record->vartype)
{
case PGC_BOOL:
{
const struct config_bool *conf = &record->_bool;
if (conf->show_hook)
val = conf->show_hook();
else
val = *conf->variable ? "on" : "off";
}
break;
```
It mactches my experiment below.
```
$ cat data_pub/postgresql.conf | grep track_commit_timestamp
track_commit_timestamp = true # collect timestamp of transaction commit
$ psql -U postgres -p 5432
postgres=# SELECT setting FROM pg_settings WHERE name = 'track_commit_timestamp';
setting
---------
on
(1 row)
```
> Also, _on in the variable name appears bit odd.
I have two options, thought?
- commit_ts_is_enabled,
- track_commit_timestmap, same as GUC variable.
[a]: https://github.com/postgres/postgres/blob/master/src/bin/pg_upgrade/pg_upgrade.c#L215
Best regards,
Hayato Kuroda
FUJITSU LIMITED
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