| From: | "houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com> | 
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| To: | Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com> | 
| Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>, "wangw(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <wangw(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "shiy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <shiy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> | 
| Subject: | RE: Perform streaming logical transactions by background workers and parallel apply | 
| Date: | 2023-01-25 14:24:50 | 
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On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 7:30 AM Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> 
> Here are my review comments for patch v87-0002.
Thanks for your comments.
> ======
> doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
> 
> 1.
>         <para>
> -        Allows streaming or serializing changes immediately in
> logical decoding.
>          The allowed values of
> <varname>logical_replication_mode</varname> are
> -        <literal>buffered</literal> and <literal>immediate</literal>. When
> set
> -        to <literal>immediate</literal>, stream each change if
> +        <literal>buffered</literal> and <literal>immediate</literal>.
> The default
> +        is <literal>buffered</literal>.
> +       </para>
> 
> I didn't think it was necessary to say “of logical_replication_mode”.
> IMO that much is already obvious because this is the first sentence of the
> description for logical_replication_mode.
> 
Changed.
> ~~~
> 
> 2.
> +       <para>
> +        On the publisher side, it allows streaming or serializing changes
> +        immediately in logical decoding.  When set to
> +        <literal>immediate</literal>, stream each change if
>          <literal>streaming</literal> option (see optional parameters set by
>          <link linkend="sql-createsubscription"><command>CREATE
> SUBSCRIPTION</command></link>)
>          is enabled, otherwise, serialize each change.  When set to
> -        <literal>buffered</literal>, which is the default, decoding will stream
> -        or serialize changes when
> <varname>logical_decoding_work_mem</varname>
> -        is reached.
> +        <literal>buffered</literal>, decoding will stream or serialize changes
> +        when <varname>logical_decoding_work_mem</varname> is
> reached.
>         </para>
> 
> 2a.
> "it allows" --> "logical_replication_mode allows"
> 
> 2b.
> "decoding" --> "the decoding"
Changed.
> ~~~
> 
> 3.
> +       <para>
> +        On the subscriber side, if <literal>streaming</literal> option is set
> +        to <literal>parallel</literal>, this parameter also allows the leader
> +        apply worker to send changes to the shared memory queue or to
> serialize
> +        changes.  When set to <literal>buffered</literal>, the leader sends
> +        changes to parallel apply workers via shared memory queue.  When
> set to
> +        <literal>immediate</literal>, the leader serializes all changes to
> +        files and notifies the parallel apply workers to read and apply them at
> +        the end of the transaction.
> +       </para>
> 
> "this parameter also allows" --> "logical_replication_mode also allows"
Changed.
> ~~~
> 
> 4.
>         <para>
>          This parameter is intended to be used to test logical decoding and
>          replication of large transactions for which otherwise we need to
>          generate the changes till
> <varname>logical_decoding_work_mem</varname>
> -        is reached.
> +        is reached. Moreover, this can also be used to test the transmission of
> +        changes between the leader and parallel apply workers.
>         </para>
> 
> "Moreover, this can also" --> "It can also"
> 
> I am wondering would this sentence be better put at the top of the GUC
> description. So then the first paragraph becomes like this:
> 
> 
> SUGGESTION (I've also added another sentence "The effect of...")
> 
> The allowed values are buffered and immediate. The default is buffered. This
> parameter is intended to be used to test logical decoding and replication of large
> transactions for which otherwise we need to generate the changes till
> logical_decoding_work_mem is reached. It can also be used to test the
> transmission of changes between the leader and parallel apply workers. The
> effect of logical_replication_mode is different for the publisher and
> subscriber:
> 
> On the publisher side...
> 
> On the subscriber side...
I think your suggestion makes sense, so changed as suggested.
> ======
> .../replication/logical/applyparallelworker.c
> 
> 5.
> + /*
> + * In immeidate mode, directly return false so that we can switch to
> + * PARTIAL_SERIALIZE mode and serialize remaining changes to files.
> + */
> + if (logical_replication_mode == LOGICAL_REP_MODE_IMMEDIATE) return
> + false;
> 
> Typo "immediate"
> 
> Also, I felt "directly" is not needed. "return false" and "directly return false" is the
> same.
> 
> SUGGESTION
> Using ‘immediate’ mode returns false to cause a switch to PARTIAL_SERIALIZE
> mode so that the remaining changes will be serialized.
Changed.
> ======
> src/backend/utils/misc/guc_tables.c
> 
> 6.
>   {
>   {"logical_replication_mode", PGC_USERSET, DEVELOPER_OPTIONS,
> - gettext_noop("Allows streaming or serializing each change in logical
> decoding."),
> - NULL,
> + gettext_noop("Controls the behavior of logical replication publisher
> and subscriber"),
> + gettext_noop("If set to immediate, on the publisher side, it "
> + "allows streaming or serializing each change in "
> + "logical decoding. On the subscriber side, in "
> + "parallel streaming mode, it allows the leader apply "
> + "worker to serialize changes to files and notifies "
> + "the parallel apply workers to read and apply them at "
> + "the end of the transaction."),
>   GUC_NOT_IN_SAMPLE
>   },
> 
> 6a. short description
> 
> User PoV behaviour should be the same. Instead, maybe say "controls the
> internal behavior" or something like that?
Changed to "internal behavior xxx"
> ~
> 
> 6b. long description
> 
> IMO the long description shouldn’t mention ‘immediate’ mode first as it does.
> 
> BEFORE
> If set to immediate, on the publisher side, ...
> 
> AFTER
> On the publisher side, ...
Changed.
Attach the new version patch set.
The 0001 patch is the same as the v88-0001 posted by Amit[1],
attach it here to make cfbot happy.
Best Regards,
Hou zj
| Attachment | Content-Type | Size | 
|---|---|---|
| v88-0001-Rename-GUC-logical_decoding_mode-to-logical_repl.patch | application/octet-stream | 10.9 KB | 
| v88-0002-Extend-the-logical_replication_mode-to-test-the-.patch | application/octet-stream | 14.3 KB | 
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