Re: Truncate in synchronous logical replication failed

From: Japin Li <japinli(at)hotmail(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Petr Jelinek <petr(dot)jelinek(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Truncate in synchronous logical replication failed
Date: 2021-04-16 02:02:25
Message-ID: MEYP282MB166971ACB67A46BEA3FE2386B64C9@MEYP282MB1669.AUSP282.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 19:25, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 4:30 PM Japin Li <japinli(at)hotmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 at 18:22, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 3:31 PM Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 8:07 PM Petr Jelinek
>> >> <petr(dot)jelinek(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On 12 Apr 2021, at 08:58, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The problem happens only when we try to fetch IDENTITY_KEY attributes
>> >> > > because pgoutput uses RelationGetIndexAttrBitmap() to get that
>> >> > > information which locks the required indexes. Now, because TRUNCATE
>> >> > > has already acquired an exclusive lock on the index, it seems to
>> >> > > create a sort of deadlock where the actual Truncate operation waits
>> >> > > for logical replication of operation to complete and logical
>> >> > > replication waits for actual Truncate operation to finish.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Do we really need to use RelationGetIndexAttrBitmap() to build
>> >> > > IDENTITY_KEY attributes? During decoding, we don't even lock the main
>> >> > > relation, we just scan the system table and build that information
>> >> > > using a historic snapshot. Can't we do something similar here?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Adding Petr J. and Peter E. to know their views as this seems to be an
>> >> > > old problem (since the decoding of Truncate operation is introduced).
>> >> >
>> >> > We used RelationGetIndexAttrBitmap because it already existed, no other reason.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Fair enough. But I think we should do something about it because using
>> >> the same (RelationGetIndexAttrBitmap) just breaks the synchronous
>> >> logical replication. I think this is broken since the logical
>> >> replication of Truncate is supported.
>> >>
>> >> > I am not sure what exact locking we need but I would have guessed at least AccessShareLock would be needed.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Are you telling that we need AccessShareLock on the index? If so, why
>> >> is it different from how we access the relation during decoding
>> >> (basically in ReorderBufferProcessTXN, we directly use
>> >> RelationIdGetRelation() without any lock on the relation)? I think we
>> >> do it that way because we need it to process WAL entries and we need
>> >> the relation state based on the historic snapshot, so, even if the
>> >> relation is later changed/dropped, we are fine with the old state we
>> >> got. Isn't the same thing applies here in logicalrep_write_attrs? If
>> >> that is true then some equivalent of RelationGetIndexAttrBitmap where
>> >> we use RelationIdGetRelation instead of index_open should work?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Today, again I have thought about this and don't see a problem with
>> > the above idea. If the above understanding is correct, then I think
>> > for our purpose in pgoutput, we just need to call RelationGetIndexList
>> > and then build the idattr list for relation->rd_replidindex.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't know how can we build the idattr without open the index.
>> If we should open the index, then we should use NoLock, since the TRUNCATE
>> side hold AccessExclusiveLock. As Osumi points out in [1], The NoLock mode
>> assumes that the appropriate lock on the index is already taken.
>>
>
> Why can't we use RelationIdGetRelation() by passing the required
> indexOid to it?

Thanks for your reminder. It might be a way to solve this problem.
I'll try it later.

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Japin Li.
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