Re: v13: show extended stats target in \d

From: Georgios <gkokolatos(at)protonmail(dot)com>
To: Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com>
Cc: "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: v13: show extended stats target in \d
Date: 2020-09-10 07:32:27
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On Thursday, 10 September 2020 00:36, Justin Pryzby <pryzby(at)telsasoft(dot)com> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 12:35:19PM +0000, Georgios Kokolatos wrote:
>
> > I will humbly disagree with the current review. I shall refrain from changing the status though because I do not have very strong feeling about it.
>
> Sorry but this was in my spam, and didn't see until now.

No worries at all. Thank you for replying.

>
> > However the patch contains:
> >
> > - " 'm' = any(stxkind) AS mcv_enabled\\n"
> >
> >
> >
> > - " 'm' = any(stxkind) AS mcv_enabled,\\n"
> >
> >
> > - " %s"
> > "FROM pg_catalog.pg_statistic_ext stat "
> > "WHERE stxrelid = '%s'\\n"
> > "ORDER BY 1;",
> >
> >
> > - (pset.sversion >= 130000 ? "stxstattarget\\n" : "-1\\n"),
> > oid);
> >
> >
> >
> > This seems to be breaking a bit the pattern in describeOneTableDetails().
> > First, it is customary to write the whole query for the version in its own block. I do find this pattern rather helpful and clean. So in my humble opinion, the ternary expression should be replaced with a distinct if block that would implement stxstattarget. Second, setting the value to -1 as an indication of absence breaks the pattern a bit further. More on that bellow.
>
> Hm, I did like this using the "hastriggers" code as a template. But you're
> right that everywhere else does it differently.

Thank you for taking my input.

>
> > - if (strcmp(PQgetvalue(result, i, 8), "-1") != 0)
> >
> >
> > - appendPQExpBuffer(&buf, " STATISTICS %s",
> >
> >
> > - PQgetvalue(result, i, 8));
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > In the same function, one will find a bit of a different pattern for printing the statistics, e.g.
> > if (strcmp(PQgetvalue(result, i, 7), "t") == 0)
> > I will again hold the opinion that if the query gets crafted a bit differently, one can inspect if the table has `stxstattarget` and then, go ahead and print the value.
> > Something in the lines of:
> > if (strcmp(PQgetvalue(result, i, 8), "t") == 0)
> > appendPQExpBuffer(&buf, " STATISTICS %s", PQgetvalue(result, i, 9));
>
> I think what you've written wouldn't give the desired behavior, since it would
> show the stats target even when it's set to the default. I don't see the point
> of having additional, separate, version-specific boolean columns for 1) column
> exists; 2) column is not default, in addition to 3) column value. But I added
> comment about what Peter and I agree is desirable, anyway.

Fair enough. As I said above, I do not have a very strong feeling, so it gets my +1 if it is worth anything.

>
> > Finally, the patch might be more complete if a note is added in the documentation.
> > Have you considered adding something in doc/src/sgml/ref/psql-ref.sgml? If no, will you consider it? If yes, why did you discard it?
>
> I don't think the details of psql output are currently documented. This shows
> nothing about column statistics target, nor about MV stats at all.
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/13/app-psql.html

Yeah, I have noticed that. Hence my question. If anything maybe the documentation can be expanded to cover these cases in a different patch. Thank you for your answer.

>
> As for the discussion about a separator, I think maybe a comma is enough. I
> doubt anyone is going to think that you can get a valid command by prefixing
> this by "CREATE STATISTICS". Actually, it didn't even occur to me it was valid
> command without the stats target - after all, that's not true of indexes.
>
> - "public"."ab1_a_b_stats" (ndistinct, dependencies, mcv) ON a, b FROM ab1, STATISTICS 0
>
> This revision only shows the stats target in verbose mode (slash dee plus).
>
> --
> Justin
>

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