From: | "Andrey M(dot) Borodin" <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru> |
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To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org> |
Cc: | Aleksander Alekseev <aleksander(at)timescale(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers mailing list <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Sergey Prokhorenko <sergeyprokhorenko(at)yahoo(dot)com(dot)au>, Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl>, Przemysław Sztoch <przemyslaw(at)sztoch(dot)pl>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Mat Arye <mat(at)timescaledb(dot)com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nikolay Samokhvalov <samokhvalov(at)gmail(dot)com>, Junwang Zhao <zhjwpku(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: UUID v7 |
Date: | 2024-03-20 18:08:09 |
Message-ID: | FFDEE01F-7E3B-4DCC-8830-F722307C2412@yandex-team.ru |
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> On 19 Mar 2024, at 13:55, Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org> wrote:
>
> On 16.03.24 18:43, Andrey M. Borodin wrote:
>>> On 15 Mar 2024, at 14:47, Aleksander Alekseev <aleksander(at)timescale(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 to the idea. I doubt that anyone will miss it.
>> PFA v22.
>> Changes:
>> 1. Squashed all editorialisation by Jelte
>> 2. Fixed my erroneous comments on using Method 2 (we are using method 1 instead)
>> 3. Remove all traces of uuid_extract_variant()
>
> I have committed a subset of this for now, namely the additions of uuid_extract_timestamp() and uuid_extract_version(). These seemed mature and agreed upon. You can rebase the rest of your patch on top of that.
Great! Thank you! PFA v23 with rebase on HEAD.
> I have started a separate discussion to learn about the precision we can expect from gettimeofday().
Even in presence of real microsecond-enabled and portable timer using microseconds does not seem to me an optimal way of utilising UUID bits.
Timer-based bits contribute to global sortability. But the real timers we have are not even millisecond adjusted. We can hope for ~few ms variation in one datacenter or in presence of atomic clocks.
Time-based bits contribute to global uniqueness, but certainly they are not that effective as counter bits.
Time-based bits do not provide local sortability guarantees: some UUIDs might get same microseconds or be affected by leap backwards.
I think that microseconds are good only for hardware-specific solutions, not for something that runs on variety of platforms, OSes, devices.
Best regards, Andrey Borodin.
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