Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)hub(dot)org>
To: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>
Cc: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Andrew Sullivan <ajs(at)crankycanuck(dot)ca>, pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Can we please refuse mail to the list from list addresses?
Date: 2007-11-29 17:00:07
Message-ID: EF44CEEFA0C2FC07EC3B6437@ganymede.hub.org
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- --On Thursday, November 29, 2007 07:59:56 -0800 "Joshua D. Drake"
<jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> wrote:

> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>> Marc G. Fournier wrote:
>>
>>> - --On Thursday, November 29, 2007 13:53:06 +0100 Magnus Hagander
>>> <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That one may be, but it's not like it's a *new* concept that you shouldn't
>>>> have end-users connecting and sending email on port 25...
>>> Is anyone arguing that? I always connect / send on port 25 ...
>>
>> The IETF is. What they are saying is that you are helping the spammers
>> by not using 587.
>>
>
> O.k. what I don't understand is, "how" are we helping spammers? It isn't like
> we allow relaying without auth.

And is there a reason to assume spammers are that stupid as to not switch to
using 587 if that does become some sort of standard?

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