Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement

From: "Dave Page" <dpage(at)vale-housing(dot)co(dot)uk>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: "Magnus Hagander" <mha(at)sollentuna(dot)net>, "Robert Treat" <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Josh Berkus" <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] Increased company involvement
Date: 2005-05-06 15:11:55
Message-ID: E7F85A1B5FF8D44C8A1AF6885BC9A0E490DC0F@ratbert.vale-housing.co.uk
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc G. Fournier [mailto:scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org]
> Sent: 06 May 2005 16:04
> To: Dave Page
> Cc: Marc G. Fournier; Magnus Hagander; Robert Treat; Tom
> Lane; Josh Berkus; pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: Re: [pgsql-advocacy] [HACKERS] Increased company involvement
>
> On Fri, 6 May 2005, Dave Page wrote:
>
> > - Who/how will the release processes for all these seperate
> projects be
> > coordinated?
>
> Who does now? As far as I know, PLs or contrib files
> *aren't* tested by
> the regression tests, so, at best, they are getting 'spotty
> testing' right
> now when we release ... we know they build, that's it. And
> that won't
> change before/after ... Andrew is looking to add PL testing
> to the build
> farm, something that isn't done now ...

Yes, but isn't the point of the so-called WTKS to pull in other projects
like PL/R, libpqxx and a range of other external projects from places
like Gborg? We have precisely zero control over their quality.

> > - How will users be sure that the external projects are of
> the quality
> > we expect of PostgreSQL?
>
> Again, how are they sure now?
>
> If you are referring to my thought to include stuff like JDBC
> or libpqxx,
> then as I've already stated, it will be their responsibility
> to work with
> us if they want to be included ... if we are ready to release
> 8.1, and
> they don't set down a 8.1 tag that we can 'pull from', they won't be
> included in that release ... we're not going to chase them down ...

So we could easily end up with one package being included in one
release, but not the next, then included in the next two, then dropped
from a couple? Users will go loopy trying to figure that out!

Regards, Dave.

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