> On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>
> Chris Travers <chris(dot)travers(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:42 PM, James Keener <jim(at)jimkeener(dot)com> wrote:
>>> The question is: how can you (honestly) make people feel like we'll take
>>> complaints seriously, while also not allowing for the politics that I've
>>> seen surround recent incarnations of Codes of Conduct?
>
>> At the end I see signals in the current CoC that make me hopeful. Phrases
>> like "common interest" occur. There are some minor changes I think would
>> help avoid problems. But they aren't big deals. The big thing is I trust
>> our community not to exclude people based, for example, on political or
>> cultural perspectives and thats really important.
>
> The one thing that gives me any hope of success is that this has
> historically been an apolitical community, so that these sorts of problems
> don't naturally arise. As long as it stays that way, I think a CoC can
> work to smooth out edge-case situations. I tend to agree that a CoC
> could not fix tensions in a community that naturally needs to deal with
> political or religious issues. If someone tries to inflame political or
> religious feelings among the PG community, I hope we have the sense to
> walk away. (Maybe we could put something in the CoC about that, but
> I have the sense that it'd do more harm than good.)
I would say that the ethos of the community cannot be codified, but is
something the community leaders must continue to exemplify.
Jonathan