Re: meson: avoid PATH bloat from NLS .mo targets in tmp_install test setup

On Wed Jul 29, 2026 at 11:28 AM CDT, Tristan Partin wrote:
> On Wed Jul 15, 2026 at 8:49 PM UTC, Tristan Partin wrote:
>> On Wed Jul 15, 2026 at 8:44 PM UTC, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 12:30 PM Tristan Partin <tristan(at)partin(dot)io> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue Jul 14, 2026 at 9:24 PM UTC, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>>>> > Hi
>>>> >
>>>> > While setting up a Windows/MSVC buildfarm animal with NLS enabled, the
>>>> > meson 'tmp_install' and 'initdb_cache' setup tests failed immediately
>>>> > with exit status 1 and no stdout/stderr at all.
>>>> >
>>>> > With a little help from Claude, I (eventually) found this diagnosis and
>>>> > solution:
>>>> >
>>>> > The root cause turned out to be in meson itself, not in our meson.build.
>>>> > On Windows, determine_windows_extra_paths() in
>>>> > mesonbuild/backend/backends.py builds a test's PATH by walking every
>>>> > target passed via that test's 'depends:' kwarg (extra_bdeps) and adding
>>>> > each one's build directory unconditionally, with no check for whether
>>>> > the target actually produces a DLL. That's fine when 'depends:' lists a
>>>> > handful of real link dependencies, but the 'tmp_install' test depends on
>>>> > installed_targets, which includes nls_mo_targets - one custom_target per
>>>> > locale/domain of compiled .mo catalogs. With NLS enabled that's several
>>>> > hundred targets, none of them DLLs, none of them ever looked up via
>>>> > PATH, and each one still gets its own entry.
>>>> >
>>>> > In our case this inflated PATH to ~39000 characters across 584 entries
>>>> > (448 of them po/*/LC_MESSAGES directories), comfortably past practical
>>>> > Windows environment-variable/command-line length limits, which is why
>>>> > the test failed silently - the failure happens before the child process
>>>> > gets a chance to produce any output.
>>>> >
>>>> > I think this is arguably a meson bug (determine_windows_extra_paths()
>>>> > should filter extra_bdeps the same way it already filters a test
>>>> > executable's own link dependencies), but regardless of whether that
>>>> > gets fixed upstream, we can sidestep it on our end cheaply: depend on a
>>>> > trivial stamp custom_target instead of installed_targets directly. Its
>>>> > own 'depends:' still forces installed_targets to build first, so build
>>>> > ordering is unaffected, but since a custom_target is not a
>>>> > build.BuildTarget, meson doesn't recurse into its dependencies when
>>>> > computing the test PATH - it contributes at most one harmless directory
>>>> > instead of hundreds.
>>>> >
>>>> > I initially tried wrapping installed_targets in an alias_target()
>>>> > instead, which would avoid the recursion the same way, but test()'s
>>>> > 'depends:' kwarg is typechecked to only accept
>>>> > BuildTarget | CustomTarget | CustomTargetIndex and rejects AliasTarget
>>>> > outright:
>>>> >
>>>> > meson.build:NNNN:0: ERROR: test keyword argument 'depends' was of
>>>> > type array[AliasTarget] but should have been type
>>>> > array[BuildTarget | CustomTarget | CustomTargetIndex]
>>>> >
>>>> > The attached patch uses a custom_target instead, which satisfies that
>>>> > type check.
>>>> >
>>>> > Tested on Windows/MSVC (meson 1.11.1), building with -Dnls=enabled:
>>>> >
>>>> > before: tmp_install test PATH = 39193 chars, 584 entries, 448
>>>> > LC_MESSAGES - tmp_install and initdb_cache setup tests FAIL
>>>> > (exit status 1, no output)
>>>> > after: tmp_install test PATH = 2189 chars, 43 entries, 0
>>>> > LC_MESSAGES - all three setup tests (tmp_install,
>>>> > install_test_files, initdb_cache) OK
>>>> >
>>>> > I did not attempt to fix the same class of problem for any other test
>>>> > in the tree - this patch only touches the one setup test that was
>>>> > actually failing for us. If there's interest, the same technique could
>>>> > presumably be applied wherever else a test's 'depends:' pulls in a
>>>> > large target list.
>>>>
>>>> Hey Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> I took some time to raise this issue with the Meson team in their
>>>> Matrix/IRC channel. I'll see if the discussion goes anywhere.
>>>>
>>>> As for the fix and the results, they look good to me. I couldn't
>>>> identify any other problems where this could be an issue, so this seems
>>>> like a one-off. Did you notice any other problems? I only noticed
>>>> installed_targets depended on in tmp_install and install-quiet.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I should have mentioned that I raised an issue at <
>>> https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/issues/16010>
>>
>> Thanks! Currently discussing potential solutions.
>
> I posted a PR[0] to fix this. Just waiting on review. Thanks for your
> initial investigation.
>
> [0]: https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/16039

I ended up using a different solution, but this is now fixed[1] in
Meson, and will be released in 1.13.0.

[1]: https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/16039

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