From: | "Matheus Alcantara" <matheusssilv97(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | "Joel Jacobson" <joel(at)compiler(dot)org>, Álvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)kurilemu(dot)de>, "Arseniy Mukhin" <arseniy(dot)mukhin(dot)dev(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | "Matheus Alcantara" <matheusssilv97(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Masahiko Sawada" <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Rishu Bagga" <rishu(dot)postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Yura Sokolov" <y(dot)sokolov(at)postgrespro(dot)ru>, "Daniil Davydov" <3danissimo(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Alexandra Wang" <alexandra(dot)wang(dot)oss(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Subject: | Re: LISTEN/NOTIFY bug: VACUUM sets frozenxid past a xid in async queue |
Date: | 2025-10-20 12:41:43 |
Message-ID: | DDN5OD2RQFF4.CW8X8CMVQAJC@gmail.com |
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On Sun Oct 19, 2025 at 2:14 PM -03, Joel Jacobson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, at 15:51, Álvaro Herrera wrote:
>> I have the impression that this thread has lost focus on the idea of
>> producing a backpatchable bugfix. The last proposed patch has a lot of
>> new mechanism that doesn't seem suitable for backpatch. I could be
>> wrong of course.
>
> I've tried to create a minimal isolated fix, hopefully suitable for
> backpatching, with no new mechanisms, other than the added
> GetOldestQueuedNotifyXid used by vac_update_datfrozenxid.
>
> It's based on the approach discussed earlier in this thread, that just
> goes through the notification queue from QUEUE_TAIL to QUEUE_HEAD, to
> find the oldestXid in the current database.
>
> Implementation:
>
> * Break out SLRU read page code from asyncQueueReadAllNotifications into
> new helper-function asyncQueueReadPageToBuffer.
>
> * Add GetOldestQueuedNotifyXid which uses the new helper-function
> asyncQueueReadPageToBuffer.
>
> It passes the 001_xid_freeze.pl test, not included in this patch.
>
This is similar to what was already proposed at [1]. This approach was
abandoned because a notification on the queue may block datfrozenxid
advance and clog truncation which can cause other issues for the users [2].
[1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAFY6G8cJm73_MM9SuynZUqtqcaTuepUDgDuvS661oLW7U0dgsg%40mail.gmail.com
[2] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/d186fba0-dc65-4274-aa96-3906bbb2e530%40postgrespro.ru
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Matheus Alcantara
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