| From: | Jacob Champion <jacob(dot)champion(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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| To: | Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl> |
| Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, Dave Cramer <davecramer(at)gmail(dot)com>, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Correct documentation for protocol version |
| Date: | 2026-07-01 20:14:27 |
| Message-ID: | CAOYmi+=Lf5DkFKi3mdppBi+8ABx0j2HGD_TrnbyoRqh+XmEkcg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 1:28 PM Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl> wrote:
> > (To
> > put it another way: clients and servers don't have to support that in
> > order to claim protocol 3.0 compliance.)
>
> Based on my reading of the protocol docs[1] that's not the case.
IMNSHO:
1) the protocol docs serve the community, not the other way 'round, and
2) I don't think an observational description of what the server does
today should be used as evidence that all Postgres-compatible servers
MUST do the same.
(Heikki's welcome to jump in here and correct me, but if we'd intended
this to be a retroactively mandatory feature for all 3.0
implementations -- which I don't recall being part of the deal when
the patchset went in -- it should have been backported, no? Contrast
NegotiateProtocolVersion, which does absolutely belong in this list.)
> I think it would be a shame if there will never be a point when we can
> make clients default to sslmode=direct.
Luckily I think that discussion can probably sidestep any hypothetical
plan to drop support for servers that can't speak direct-TLS. See also
the SVCB discussion and the libpqrc discussion.
> But if you think it should be
> an optional feature, then the current docs should definitely be
> clarified in that respect.
Works for me; I'm generally happy to commit clarifications.
--Jacob
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