Re: Guidance Needed for PostgreSQL Upgrade from 12 to 15

From: Ron Johnson <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Pgsql-admin <pgsql-admin(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Guidance Needed for PostgreSQL Upgrade from 12 to 15
Date: 2024-11-21 18:45:42
Message-ID: CANzqJaCihb85vYDy7UG0LT-DZBD7378600++PBEZ8_WPEUpTxQ@mail.gmail.com
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pg_dumpall uses a single thread to generate one big .sql file. If your
database(s) are small enough that generating (even a compressed) .sql file,
copying it then importing it is Good Enough, then that's fine.

Otherwise, "logical replication" or "multithreaded pg_dump" is what you
want.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 1:17 PM Motog Plus <mplus7535(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> Dear Team,
> Thank you for your valuable inputs on the PostgreSQL upgrade.
> Given the challenges encountered with pg_upgrade in a Kubernetes
> environment, we're considering a more traditional approach involving
> pg_dumpall to take backup and then restore the data using psql utility.
> Can you please advise if this approach will be fine or you see any issues
> with it?
>
> A high level overview of the steps:
>
> 1. Backup:
> * Connect to the existing PostgreSQL 12 pod.
> * Execute pg_dumpall to create a complete database dump.
>
> 2. New Deployment:
> * Create a new PostgreSQL 16 pod.
> I think no need to use initidb as it will be autoinitialized .
>
> 3. Restore:
> * Transfer the backup file to the new pod.
> * Use psql utility to restore the database from the dump.
>
> 4. Verification:
> * Thoroughly test the restored database to ensure data integrity and
> functionality.
>
> 5. Cutover:
> * Once verification is complete, switch over traffic to the new
> PostgreSQL 16 pod.
> * Delete the old PostgreSQL 12 pod.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ramzy
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024, 02:47 Scott Ribe <scott_ribe(at)elevated-dev(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
>> > On Nov 19, 2024, at 1:40 PM, Kris Deugau <kdeugau(at)vianet(dot)ca> wrote:
>> >
>> > I stand corrected. I hadn't read the docs on pg_upgrade for quite a
>> while, but after reading the last section in
>> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/pgupgrade.html:
>> >
>> > "If you did not start the new cluster, the old cluster was unmodified
>> except that, when linking started, a .old suffix was appended to
>> $PGDATA/global/pg_control. To reuse the old cluster, remove the .old suffix
>> from $PGDATA/global/pg_control; you can then restart the old cluster."
>> >
>> > I see what you mean.
>> >
>>
>> There's nothing wrong per se about taking the snapshot before, I was just
>> saving the potential time of re-running pg_upgrade. Heck, take a snapshot
>> before *and* after ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>

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