Re: pg_restore Question

From: Ron Johnson <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Pgsql-admin <pgsql-admin(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pg_restore Question
Date: 2025-06-22 16:57:23
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It would be handy if pg_class had created_on timestamp, created_by oid,
altered_on timestamp, altered_by oid fields, but alas they don't exist.

On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 6:52 AM Edwin UY <edwin(dot)uy(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> Yes, Samurai Jack, I mean Ron --- just kidding. That is my preference too.
> When you work with several people who are 'Senior' DBA, it's difficult to
> go to a debate / argument of sort that we should be doing it like this :(
> Will continue to check things around.
> Kinda hoping there are some kind of timestamps when a table / index gets
> created.
>
> P.S.:
> I really wish I can properly learn PostgreSQL hands-on in the real world
> as a remote intern somewhere.
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2025 at 9:58 PM Ron Johnson <ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
>> This is why I do all backups, restores, upgrades, etc through cron.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 8:59 AM Furkan Shaikh <fs626261(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> *No Definitive Proof:* Without logs, you cannot get a timestamped
>>> log entry saying "pg_restore started/finished." All these methods provide
>>> indirect evidence.
>>> -
>>>
>>> *Requires Prior Knowledge:* Most effective indicators rely on you
>>> having some memory or previous records of the database's state (e.g.,
>>> typical sequence values, expected bloat, average last-vacuum times).
>>> -
>>>
>>> *Other Causes:* Some of these patterns (like recent statistics)
>>> could also be caused by an aggressive VACUUM FULL, a major data
>>> import through other means, or an application bug that resets sequences.
>>>
>>> Conclusion
>>>
>>> The most reliable indicators without direct logs are a *sudden and
>>> uniform resetting of last_vacuum/last_analyze timestamps to NULL or very
>>> recent values across all user tables*, combined with a potential change
>>> in object OIDs (if you tracked them) or unexpected sequence values. If you
>>> see most of your tables
>>>
>>> On Sat, 21 Jun, 2025, 3:41 pm Edwin UY, <edwin(dot)uy(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Without access to the dumpfile or log file, is there any way to check
>>>> whether a database has been restore either by pg_restore or other means?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Edd
>>>>
>>>
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