Re: Logical decoding on standby

From: Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Simon Riggs <simon(dot)riggs(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Thom Brown <thom(at)linux(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, Petr Jelinek <petr(dot)jelinek(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Logical decoding on standby
Date: 2017-03-22 22:55:53
Message-ID: CAMsr+YHCca+Cry_JoWGDHtpCR-ysD=y=KRefOLG9WS-semMZuA@mail.gmail.com
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On 22 March 2017 at 21:06, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2017-03-21 09:05:26 +0800, Craig Ringer wrote:
>> > 0002 should be doable as a whole this release, I have severe doubts that
>> > 0003 as a whole has a chance for 10 - the code is in quite a raw shape,
>> > there's a significant number of open ends. I'd suggest breaking of bits
>> > that are independently useful, and work on getting those committed.
>>
>> That would be my preference too.
>
>
>> The parts I think are important for Pg10 are:
>
>> * Ability to create logical slots on replicas
>
> Doesn't this also imply recovery conflicts on DROP DATABASE? Besides,
> allowing to drop all slots using a database upon DROP DATABASE, is a
> useful thing on its own.

Definitely beneficial, otherwise recovery will stop until you drop
slots, which isn't ideal.

>> * Ability to advance (via feedback or via SQL function) - no need to
>> actually decode and call output plugins at al
>
> That pretty much requires decoding, otherwise you really don't know how
> much WAL you have to retain.

Yes, and to update restart_lsn and catalog_xmin correctly.

I was thinking that by disallowing snapshot use and output plugin
invocation we'd avoid the need to support cancellation on recovery
conflicts, etc, simplifying things considerably.

>> * Ability to drop logical slots on replicas
>
> That shouldn't actually require any changes, no?

It doesn't, it works as-is. I have NFI why I wrote that.

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