Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS

From: Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Mark Kirkwood <mark(dot)kirkwood(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Anthony Iliopoulos <ailiop(at)altatus(dot)com>, Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Catalin Iacob <iacobcatalin(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS
Date: 2018-04-19 00:44:33
Message-ID: CAMsr+YFSj12d-5HoH_a56WqV95_EWA2FK+YikKz8LUBKqn5dfQ@mail.gmail.com
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On 19 April 2018 at 07:31, Mark Kirkwood <mark(dot)kirkwood(at)catalyst(dot)net(dot)nz> wrote:
> On 19/04/18 00:45, Craig Ringer wrote:
>
>>
>> I guarantee you that when you create a 100GB EBS volume on AWS EC2,
>> you don't get 100GB of storage preallocated. AWS are probably pretty
>> good about not running out of backing store, though.
>>
>>
>
> Some db folks (used to anyway) advise dd'ing to your freshly attached
> devices on AWS (for performance mainly IIRC), but that would help prevent
> some failure scenarios for any thin provisioned storage (but probably really
> annoy the admins' thereof).

This still makes a lot of sense on AWS EBS, particularly when using a
volume created from a non-empty snapshot. Performance of S3-snapshot
based EBS volumes is spectacularly awful, since they're copy-on-read.
Reading the whole volume helps a lot.

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Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services

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