Re: pgbench vs. wait events

From: Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Alfred Perlstein <alfred(at)freebsd(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgbench vs. wait events
Date: 2016-10-08 18:22:26
Message-ID: CAMkU=1xZUMTAbcgYUk1x4g3Fcxu18pPfR1A3w4NRYapcSNiPTg@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:

>
> > Another strategy that may work is actually intentionally
> waiting/buffering
> > some few ms between flushes/fsync,
>
> We do that before attempting to write if user has set "commit_delay"
> and "commit_siblings" guc parameters.
>

If you have a fast, high resolution timer, then one thing you can do is
keep track of when the previous xlog sync finished. Then instead of having
commit_delay be an absolute amount of time to sleep, it would mean "wait
until that amount of time has passed since the previous sync finished." So
you would set it based on the RPM of your drive, so that the time it is
sleeping to allow more work to happen from other processes is time it would
have to spend waiting on rotational delay anyway.

But I dropped this, because it would be hard to tune, hard to implement in
a cross-platform way, and because anyone with such high performance needs
is just going to buy a nonvolatile write-cache and be done with it.

>
> Now here, we can't buffer the fsync requests as current we are doing
> both writes and fsync under one lock. However, if we can split the
> work such that writes are done under one lock and fsync under separate
> lock, then probably we can try to buffer fsync requests and after
> fsyncing the current pending requests, we can recheck if there are
> more pending requests and try to flush them.
>

What I implemented at one point was:

(Already have the lock before getting here)
Write to the extent it is ready to be written.
Update the shared structure to reflect written upto.
Drop the lock
fsync
Take the lock again
update the shared structure to reflect flushed upto.
Drop the lock again.

This way, multiple process could all be waiting on the kernel's fsync
response, rather than on each others locks. What I was hoping would happen
is that if one process wrote everything that was ready and called fsync,
while it was waiting for the platter to come around to the writing head,
more processes could make more data ready, write that more data, and call
an fsync of their own. And the kernel would be smart enough to amalgamate
them together. But the kernel evidently was not that smart, and performance
did not improve.

Cheers,

Jeff

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