Re: PostgreSQL Upgrade (v9.5 to v12) with Django 2.0

From: Kushal Shri <shrikushalk(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: ronljohnsonjr(at)gmail(dot)com, pgsql-admin(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Cc: Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>, eduardobarbachandb(at)gmail(dot)com
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL Upgrade (v9.5 to v12) with Django 2.0
Date: 2025-06-15 10:05:27
Message-ID: CAMSJNCVfYATtRBkjAP-egVcP_sepTSEp9=_YLf5EL4Z0L0B4HA@mail.gmail.com
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Currently, our plan is to test pg_upgrade using the --link option to
upgrade from PostgreSQL 9.5 to 12, then upgrade Django to the latest
supported version, and finally perform another pg_upgrade to PostgreSQL 16.

Since Django 2.0 is officially tested and supported only up to PostgreSQL
10, would you recommend upgrading to PostgreSQL 10 using pg_upgrade as the
first phase, followed by logical replication to PostgreSQL 16 as the final
target after upgrading Django as well?

and, if we use the --link option for pg_upgrade, what would be the rollback
plan in case issues arise during or after the upgrade?

On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 at 01:59, Eduardo Barbachan <
eduardobarbachandb(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> I'm sorry if this part of the answer should not be given in this context,
> but I happen to be in this list (as a lurker for most of the time) and be a
> Django user.
> Till Django 4.2 (LTS) postgres 12 is supported. Django 5.2 (LTS also)
> supports postgres 17+.
>
>
> Em qui., 12 de jun. de 2025 às 10:19, Laurenz Albe <
> laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> escreveu:
>
>> On Wed, 2025-06-11 at 16:39 +0545, Kushal Shri wrote:
>> > We are in the process of planning a PostgreSQL upgrade and would greatly
>> > appreciate any insights, best practices, or lessons learned from your
>> experiences.
>> >
>> > Current Setup:
>> > - PostgreSQL version: 9.5
>> > - Django version: 2.0
>> > - Database size: ~3 TB
>> > - One Master 4 Replicas(Streaming Replication)
>> >
>> > We are taking a phased approach to this upgrade. In Phase 1, our goal
>> is to
>> > upgrade PostgreSQL from v9.5 to v12, ensuring compatibility with our
>> current
>> > Django 2.0 application.
>>
>> That's already wrong. PostgreSQL v12 is out of support. Upgrade to v17
>> or v18.
>>
>> > As part of this, I would like to understand:
>> >
>> > - What is the highest PostgreSQL version reliably supported with Django
>> 2.0?
>>
>> You'll have to ask Django what they support.
>>
>> > - What upgrade strategies or methods have worked well for you in
>> similar environments?
>>
>> pg_upgrade --link
>>
>> > - Any gotchas or performance considerations to keep in mind with large
>> databases
>> > during such upgrades?
>>
>> Make sure you don't have millions of Large Objects, otherwise the upgrade
>> will be very slow and memory consuming.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Laurenz Albe
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Att.
>
> Eduardo Barbachan
>

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