From: | Nikolay Samokhvalov <nik(at)postgres(dot)ai> |
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To: | pgsql-hackers mailing list <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | docs: LISTEN/NOTIFY performance considerations |
Date: | 2025-07-10 23:50:33 |
Message-ID: | CAM527d_s8coiXDA4xbJRyVOcNnnjnf+ezPYpn214y3-5ixn75w@mail.gmail.com |
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Greetings!
LISTEN/NOTIFY has known performance issues that aren't documented but
regularly surprise users in production – my customers and I encountered
some of them multiple times.
They were also discussed in the past, e.g.,:
- 2008: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/5215.1204048454@sss.pgh.pa.us
- 2013: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/3598.1363354686@sss.pgh.pa.us
Recently, Recall.ai had production outages from hitting these exact issues:
https://www.recall.ai/blog/postgres-listen-notify-does-not-scale (popped up
to no.1 position on HN right now:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44490510)
It's probably a good time to consider improving this area, but while it's
not happening, I propose documenting the risks to help users avoid
incidents (backpatching to all supported versions).
The proposed docs patch to the LISTEN/NOTIFY docs includes words about:
1. Global lock during commit affecting all databases in cluster
2. O(N²) duplicate checking performance
3. How to diagnose (log_lock_waits example)
4. Alternatives (logical decoding)
Thoughts?
Nik
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