From: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)heroku(dot)com> |
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To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> |
Subject: | Re: Releasing in September |
Date: | 2016-01-20 21:59:59 |
Message-ID: | CAM3SWZSCOX45XzF+=23q9Ck0RgcuhW0qBVBtLAp+kpgqTWDJeg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> wrote:
> Yeah, a lot of the ideas in this thread, while reasonable, are of the
> sort "We need to be better about ..." which sounds a lot like "I need to
> be better about exercising". A system based purely on distributed
> willpower isn't going to last very long, as we are finding out.
I have often thought that contributors have a tendency to be
unrealistic about how effective procedural changes can be in
alleviating our problems. We have always relied heavily on individual
acts of heroism. I expect no great changes there.
For example, you can't really expect a CF app SQL query to give you
anything greater than an extremely noisy idea of how much "review
goodwill" somebody has banked. My oldest pending patch in the CF app
is a boring refactoring patch that no one asked me to write. Should
that be held against me?
> My feeble attempts at alleviating this problem a bit are adding more
> testing and removing outdated functionality, but both of those are also
> incredibly abuse-prone activities.
I think that we've learned some lessons from the problems with 9.3. I
don't think that one of those lessons was "take more time to release".
There is reason to doubt that that would have changed matters one bit
with 9.3. It might be a good idea to formally state what those lessons
are.
--
Peter Geoghegan
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