From: | Rod Taylor <rod(dot)taylor(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Subject: | Re: Allow "snapshot too old" error, to prevent bloat |
Date: | 2015-02-19 18:23:40 |
Message-ID: | CAKddOFBM76D7dBgZoSz8FVReJKCEbJAKgy-RKN90dTvO=8cfPw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com> wrote:
> >> But max_standby_streaming_delay, max_standby_archive_delay and
> >> hot_standby_feedback are among the most frequent triggers for
> >> questions and complaints that I/we see.
> >>
> > Agreed.
> > And a really bad one used to be vacuum_defer_cleanup_age, because
> > of confusing units amongst other things. Which in terms seems
> > fairly close to Kevins suggestions, unfortunately.
>
> Particularly my initial suggestion, which was to base snapshot
> "age" it on the number of transaction IDs assigned. Does this look
> any better to you if it is something that can be set to '20min' or
> '1h'? Just to restate, that would not automatically cancel the
> snapshots past that age; it would allow vacuum of any tuples which
> became "dead" that long ago, and would cause a "snapshot too old"
> message for any read of a page modified more than that long ago
> using a snapshot which was older than that.
>
>
I like this thought. One of the first things I do in a new Pg environment
is setup a cronjob that watches pg_stat_activity and terminates most
backends over N minutes in age (about 5x the length of normal work) with an
exception for a handful of accounts doing backups and other maintenance
operations. This prevents a stuck client from jamming up the database.
Would pg_dump be able to opt-out of such a restriction?
regards,
Rod
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