Re: Should the docs have a warning about pg_stat_reset()?

From: David Rowley <david(dot)rowley(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Euler Taveira <euler(at)timbira(dot)com(dot)br>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Should the docs have a warning about pg_stat_reset()?
Date: 2019-04-10 16:14:11
Message-ID: CAKJS1f8xyhspj2+LexKW000yHcKhb+A+dni8nUtju2cKuX4FqQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 at 00:59, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 7:49 PM David Rowley
> <david(dot)rowley(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> > Yeah, analyze, not vacuum. It is a bit scary to add new ways for
> > auto-vacuum to suddenly have a lot of work to do. When all workers
> > are busy it can lead to neglect of other duties. It's true that there
> > won't be much in the way of routine vacuuming work for the database
> > the stats were just reset on, as of course, all the n_dead_tup
> > counters were just reset. However, it could starve other databases of
> > vacuum attention. Anti-wraparound vacuums on the current database may
> > get neglected too.
> >
> > I'm not saying let's not do it, I'm just saying we need to think of
> > what bad things could happen as a result of such a change.
>
> +1. I think that if we documented that pg_stat_reset() is going to
> trigger an auto-analyze of every table in your system, we'd have some
> people who didn't read the documentation and unleashed a storm of
> auto-analyze activity, and other people who did read the documentation
> and then intentionally used it to unleash a storm of auto-analyze
> activity. Neither sounds that great.

I still think we should start with a warning about pg_stat_reset().
People are surprised by this, and these are just the ones who notice:

https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAB_myF4sZpxNXdb-x=weLpqBDou6uE8FHtM0FVerPM-1J7phkw@mail.gmail.com

I imagine there are many others just suffering from bloat due to
auto-vacuum not knowing how many dead tuples there are in the tables.

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David Rowley http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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