| From: | "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | "maciek(at)sakrejda(dot)org" <maciek(at)sakrejda(dot)org>, Shinya Kato <shinya11(dot)kato(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-docs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-docs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: doc: Clarify ANALYZE VERBOSE output |
| Date: | 2026-04-06 05:17:14 |
| Message-ID: | CAKFQuwZUSetJvoXewwofTNP5dLfhg7S31NNJhZ=G+ZbOOCZ=ug@mail.gmail.com |
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On Sunday, April 5, 2026, Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2026 at 3:10 AM Maciek Sakrejda <m(dot)sakrejda(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >
> > It makes sense to align these, but I think the existing VACUUM wording
> > is not great. What do you think about something like the attached?
> > Basically, I changed both option descriptions to just be
> >
> > Prints detailed progress for each table at <literal>INFO</literal>
> level.
> >
> > I think the idea of _progress_ is important to communicate here. The
> > word "report" suggests more detailed information, that comes in a
> > batch after the action is completed.
>
> Referring to it only as "progress" seems like a step backward, doesn't it?
> The VERBOSE option reports per-table activity details (e.g., pages to scan,
> buffer usage), not just progress.
>
> Since these details are shown for each table, they can also serve as
> progress
> indicators, but they're more than that.
>
> If that understanding is correct, the existing term "vacuum activity
> report"
> seems more appropriate to me. Thought?
>
How about something like:
“Enables sending an INFO message to the client (and server log) as each
table is processed. This message contains: etc…”
And then let’s tell the user what info they are getting and what it means
(where necessary).
I concur being specific about when these messages arrive, and IMO where,
should be specified. But losing the detail of “report” is not good; but
not sure why we are being vague so suggest we just go all-in on specificity.
David J.
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