Re: Conflict detection for update_deleted in logical replication

From: shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>
Cc: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nisha Moond <nisha(dot)moond412(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Conflict detection for update_deleted in logical replication
Date: 2025-08-25 11:03:31
Message-ID: CAJpy0uDpX6jQWC3-cyA38ANT0L_L_qQeWPy2cATzSpLNDha1=A@mail.gmail.com
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 12:09 PM shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 10:06 AM Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)
> <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > Attach the V65 patch set which addressed above and
> > Shveta's comments[1].
> >
>
> Thank You for the patches, please find a few comments on v64 itself (I
> think valid on v65 as well):
>

All previously reported bugs seem to be fixed on the latest patch.

Please find a few comments on v65 though:

1)

The comment atop adjust_xid_advance_interval() says:
~~
* The interval is reset to the lesser of 100ms and
* max_conflict_retention_duration once there is some activities on the node.
~~

But we are not doing min of the 2 values when we find new-xid (i.e.
we see activity on node)

/*
* A new transaction ID was found or the interval is not yet
* initialized, so set the interval to the minimum value.
*/
rdt_data->xid_advance_interval = MIN_XID_ADVANCE_INTERVAL;

2)
* max_conflict_retention_duration once there is some activities on the node.

activities-->activity

3)
On putting some logs, when all subs stopped retention, the values are:

LOG: ***** can_advance_xmin:1, retention_inactive:0, xmin:0
LOG: ***** can_advance_xmin:1, retention_inactive:0, xmin:0

can_advance_xmin:1 and xmin=0 seems contradictory. Can we do something
here to improve this situation?

4)
Also I fail to think of a scenario where retention_inactive will be
useful as everything seems to be handled using can_advance_xmin
already i.e. slot is updated to have invalid xmin only through
'can_advance_xmin' without relying on retention_inactive.

thanks
Shveta

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