Re: sequencesync worker race with REFRESH SEQUENCES

From: shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: sequencesync worker race with REFRESH SEQUENCES
Date: 2026-07-22 03:28:48
Message-ID: CAJpy0uDAvh8Yb5FYsqAUs+2xRGhW+gt=zDxZMc7dKO_06XYLZw@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 8:16 AM vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026 at 12:49, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > The logic of fix looks good. A few comments:
> >
> > 1)
> > Note
> > Sequence synchronization requires the publisher to be running
> > PostgreSQL 19 or later.
> >
> > This note appears to be at odd position in
> > logical-replication-sequences.html. Please have a look at html and
> > move it to end of that section if you agree.
>
> Modified
>
> > 2)
> > + from the tables themselves. Note that
> > + <link linkend="sql-altersubscription-params-refresh-sequences">
> > + <command>ALTER SUBSCRIPTION ... REFRESH SEQUENCES</command></link> only
> > + re-synchronizes sequences that are already known to the subscription
> > + (see <xref linkend="logical-replication-sequences"/>); in particular, it
> > + requires the publisher to be running <productname>PostgreSQL</productname>
> > + 19 or later. Before relying on it to prepare for a switchover or
> > + failover, confirm that the publisher's version supports sequence
> > + replication and that the sequences of interest are already known to the
> > + subscription.
> >
> > Do you think above is necessary? At subscription creation time, a
> > publisher running a version earlier than PostgreSQL 19 cannot have a
> > publication containing all sequences, so the subscription cannot have
> > such sequences known to it. Furthermore, ALTER SUBSCRIPTION to change
> > publisher-connection will report an error if the required
> > prerequisites are not met. Therefore, asking users to separately
> > verify the publisher version and sequence membership seems redundant
> > to me.
>
> This scenario can be possible, Kuroda-san has reported a similar issue at [1].
>
> > 3)
> > +bool
> > +HasSubscriptionSequences(Oid subid)
> >
> > Do you think we can resuse HasSubscriptionTables instead of
> > duplicating the complete code? We can have
> > HasSubscriptionRelations(subid, bool *has_tables, bool
> > *has_sequences)) Or is it not worth?
>
> Since checking at set connection does not handle all the cases, now
> I'm checking this at refresh sequences because of which this code has
> been now removed.
>
> The attached patch has the changes for the same. This patch also fixes
> the issue reported by Kuroda-san at [1].
>

When this idea was discussed earlier, I had asked whether we could
move the version check from copy_sequences() to the apply worker
(ProcessSequencesForSync) before it starts sequnece sync worker. The
intention was to avoid repeatedly starting the sequence-sync worker
only for it to exit in copy_sequences(). The apply worker itself could
report an error similar to how the backend reports it during REFRESH.
Thoughts?

--

Commit msg says:
Sequence synchronization relies on pg_get_sequence_data(), which was
added in PostgreSQL 19.

IIRC, it is present in PG18 as well, no?

thanks
Shveta

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