Re: updates for spi / donations info

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 2:58 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>
wrote:

> On 2/26/23 10:51 PM, Robert Treat wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 2:25 PM Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org
> > <mailto:jkatz(at)postgresql(dot)org>> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/26/23 1:04 PM, Robert Treat wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, I think I may have overcorrected on this, and could get
> > on-board
> > > with the idea of modifying the button to go directly to the
> Postgres
> > > page @ SPI as a good mix of lowering the maintenance but also
> > making it
> > > simple for folks to donate. Do you want to have a go at making
> that
> > > change, or do you need me to take another stab at a patch?
> >
> > I went ahead and made another pass.
> >
> > I stared at the PG SPI page a bit more and noticed (1) it only
> covered
> > the Paypal method and (2) the Paypal button that page has identical
> > code
> > to ours. So I kept things on our page as is, with a few wording
> tweaks.
> > It's better if we minimize the number of clicks that someone needs to
> > make to donate.
> >
> > What do you think of this changeset?
> >
> >
> > Well, my primary goal here was to eliminate the need for updating the
> > .org site in the face of SPI related changes, so I feel like we don't
> > really accomplish that if we leave the donation link as is.
> > Additionally, I'd like to reduce the surface area of Paypal on the whole
> > process, which makes this feel like a second strike.
> >
> > FWIW part of my plan with all this is to also submit a patch to the SPI
> > website which updates the logo / wording and adds a direct link to the
> > click and pledge credit card option (ideally above the paypal option),
> > so there would still be an extra click but I think it's not too much
> > extra overhead. If you really want to have a direct link to donate from
> > the .org page, I guess leave the paypal one for now, and I'll hopefully
> > come back with a patch to change it to click and pledge once I get the
> info.
>
> I went through the "Click & Pledge" process and it's unclear to me how
> you designate it for PostgreSQL. After staring at it for a bit, I
> realized that if I continue to scroll down, hover over each "More Info"
> box, I can eventually find the one that's specific to PostgreSQL. I
> don't think most folks are going to go through that process to figure
> out how to donate, and we would end up missing out on donations.
>
> While the current set up may be imperfect, it still works and limits the
> friction of making a payment via credit card (which I presume is our
> biggest contributor of donations? I can't tell from the SPI reports). If
> something changes in the SPI set up, we could certainly change our page
> to accommodate, but I think right now removing that button greatly
> increases the risk of our ability to collect donations.
>
>
Well... if the only things we accomplish at the moment are removing the
incorrect info thats a win, and if we also just list out the other options
(like Zelle) that seems like an improvement as well, and I can circle back
on the other stuff once I've gotten the SPI side updated.

Robert Treat
https://xzilla.net