Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+

From: Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Álvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)kurilemu(dot)de>
Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: EXCEPT TABLE - Case inconsistency for describe \d and \dRp+
Date: 2026-04-16 23:03:38
Message-ID: CAHut+Psq7qmQSQCZA_HZcFv9ADCHDUPqCyFuTKfPDU-GUGihhQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 12:10 AM Álvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)kurilemu(dot)de> wrote:
>
> On 2026-Apr-10, Peter Smith wrote:
>
> > # -- describe the tables
> > # \d t1
> > Table "public.t1"
> > Column | Type | Collation | Nullable | Default
> > --------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
> > a | integer | | |
> > Except Publications:
> > "pub1"
>
> I have a hard time understanding what an "except publication" is. I
> think this would be clearer if the header said "Excluded from publications:"
>

I agree that your suggestion is clearer.

If we make that change, then should the "Publications:" footer also be
modified similarly (to "Included in publications:") so they match?

e.g.

CURRENTLY

test_pub=# \d t1
Table "public.t1"
Column | Type | Collation | Nullable | Default
--------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
a | integer | | |
Publications:
"pub1"
"pub2"
Except publications:
"pub3"

~~~

SUGGESTION

test_pub=# \d t1
Table "public.t1"
Column | Type | Collation | Nullable | Default
--------+---------+-----------+----------+---------
a | integer | | |
Included in publications:
"pub1"
"pub2"
Excluded from publications:
"pub3"

~~~

I will wait for more opinions/consensus before providing a patch.

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Kind Regards,
Peter Smith.
Fujitsu Australia

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