| From: | Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> |
|---|---|
| To: | Japin Li <japinli(at)hotmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Postgres hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Remove deprecated role membership options from psql help for CREATE USER/GROUP |
| Date: | 2026-01-06 14:27:30 |
| Message-ID: | CAHGQGwGgJuvq3GPF2ReKoX3gX2uNyvtf2XSeyKYFhfQibcuBbg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 7:16 PM Japin Li <japinli(at)hotmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> When I review [1], I found commit 8e78f0a1 deprecated the IN GROUP and USER
> clauses in CREATE ROLE, and also removed IN GROUP and USER from the psql \h
> CREATE ROLE help output.
>
> However, the psql help for the legacy synonyms CREATE USER and CREATE GROUP
> still lists the deprecated options:
>
> - IN GROUP role_name [, ...]
> - USER role_name [, ...]
>
> postgres=# \h create role
> Command: CREATE ROLE
> Description: define a new database role
> Syntax:
> CREATE ROLE name [ [ WITH ] option [ ... ] ]
>
> where option can be:
>
> SUPERUSER | NOSUPERUSER
> | CREATEDB | NOCREATEDB
> | CREATEROLE | NOCREATEROLE
> | INHERIT | NOINHERIT
> | LOGIN | NOLOGIN
> | REPLICATION | NOREPLICATION
> | BYPASSRLS | NOBYPASSRLS
> | CONNECTION LIMIT connlimit
> | [ ENCRYPTED ] PASSWORD 'password' | PASSWORD NULL
> | VALID UNTIL 'timestamp'
> | IN ROLE role_name [, ...]
> | ROLE role_name [, ...]
> | ADMIN role_name [, ...]
> | SYSID uid
>
> URL: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/sql-createrole.html
>
> postgres=# \h create user
> Command: CREATE USER
> Description: define a new database role
> Syntax:
> CREATE USER name [ [ WITH ] option [ ... ] ]
>
> where option can be:
>
> SUPERUSER | NOSUPERUSER
> | CREATEDB | NOCREATEDB
> | CREATEROLE | NOCREATEROLE
> | INHERIT | NOINHERIT
> | LOGIN | NOLOGIN
> | REPLICATION | NOREPLICATION
> | BYPASSRLS | NOBYPASSRLS
> | CONNECTION LIMIT connlimit
> | [ ENCRYPTED ] PASSWORD 'password' | PASSWORD NULL
> | VALID UNTIL 'timestamp'
> | IN ROLE role_name [, ...]
> | IN GROUP role_name [, ...]
> | ROLE role_name [, ...]
> | ADMIN role_name [, ...]
> | USER role_name [, ...]
> | SYSID uid
>
> URL: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/sql-createuser.html
>
> postgres=# \h create group
> Command: CREATE GROUP
> Description: define a new database role
> Syntax:
> CREATE GROUP name [ [ WITH ] option [ ... ] ]
>
> where option can be:
>
> SUPERUSER | NOSUPERUSER
> | CREATEDB | NOCREATEDB
> | CREATEROLE | NOCREATEROLE
> | INHERIT | NOINHERIT
> | LOGIN | NOLOGIN
> | REPLICATION | NOREPLICATION
> | BYPASSRLS | NOBYPASSRLS
> | CONNECTION LIMIT connlimit
> | [ ENCRYPTED ] PASSWORD 'password' | PASSWORD NULL
> | VALID UNTIL 'timestamp'
> | IN ROLE role_name [, ...]
> | IN GROUP role_name [, ...]
> | ROLE role_name [, ...]
> | ADMIN role_name [, ...]
> | USER role_name [, ...]
> | SYSID uid
>
> URL: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/sql-creategroup.html
>
> Since CREATE USER is documented as equivalent to CREATE ROLE WITH LOGIN, and
> CREATE GROUP is equivalent to CREATE ROLE, their help syntax should remain
> consistent with CREATE ROLE.
>
> I propose removing the deprecated IN GROUP and USER lines from the help text
> of both CREATE USER and CREATE GROUP. This would be a simple documentation
> cleanup that aligns the psql help with current reality and avoids confusing
> users with obsolete syntax.
+1
The patch looks good to me.
Regards,
--
Fujii Masao
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