Re: BUG #18876: HINT messages for mxid wrap-around say "drop stale slots", but that may not be appropriate

From: Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: harukat(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp, pgsql-bugs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: BUG #18876: HINT messages for mxid wrap-around say "drop stale slots", but that may not be appropriate
Date: 2026-06-11 03:31:28
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<noreply(at)postgresql(dot)org> wrote:
>
> The following bug has been logged on the website:
>
> Bug reference: 18876
> Logged by: TAKATSUKA Haruka
> Email address: harukat(at)sraoss(dot)co(dot)jp
> PostgreSQL version: 17.4
> Operating system: any
> Description:
>
> In src/backend/access/transam/multixact.c, there are the following hint
> messages:
>
> "Execute a database-wide VACUUM in that database.\n"
> "You might also need to commit or roll back old prepared transactions, or
> drop stale replication slots."
>
> "To avoid MultiXactId assignment failures, execute a database-wide VACUUM
> in that database.\n"
> "You might also need to commit or roll back old prepared transactions, or
> drop stale replication slots."
>
> I think that their "drop stale replication slots" is not appropriate.
>
> Because NewRelminMxid is determined by GetOldestMultiXactId() and its
> comment says:
> * Return the oldest MultiXactId that's still possibly still seen as live
> by
> * any running transaction. Older ones might still exist on disk, but
> they no
> * longer have any running member transaction.
>
> Thus, the presence of an old mxid in a tuple pending removal by a slot is
> not considered to affect it.
>
> In addition, as far as I have tested, leaving the old inactive replication
> slot does not cause mxid_age(relminmxid) not to decrease after VACUUM.

I think you're right. So I prepared and attached a patch that refines
the MXID wraparound hint messages. The patch also updates the
documentation to clarify the relationship between replication slots and
MXID wraparound.

Thought?

Regards,

--
Fujii Masao

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v1-0001-PG16-Refine-MultiXact-wraparound-hints.txt text/plain 5.6 KB
v1-0001-Refine-MultiXact-wraparound-hints.patch application/octet-stream 6.0 KB
v1-0001-PG15_PG14-Refine-MultiXact-wraparound-hints.txt text/plain 4.9 KB

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