| From: | Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Anthonin Bonnefoy <anthonin(dot)bonnefoy(at)datadoghq(dot)com> |
| Cc: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: Shutdown indefinitely stuck due to unflushed FPI_FOR_HINT record |
| Date: | 2026-03-04 17:46:50 |
| Message-ID: | CAHGQGwFJnNUOMiW9wR-2WjSKzzj0wV8p55J8bnJ6mik=z0oFPQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 5:52 PM Anthonin Bonnefoy
<anthonin(dot)bonnefoy(at)datadoghq(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 6:29 PM Fujii Masao <masao(dot)fujii(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > The approach of calling XLogSetAsyncXactLSN() in RecordTransactionAbort() seems
> > more like an improvement than a bug fix. Since it changes
> > RecordTransactionAbort(), it could have unintended impact on the system.
> >
> > It may be a reasonable idea (though I'm not certain yet), but for a bug fix
> > I believe we should first apply the minimal change necessary to resolve
> > the issue. If needed, this approach could then be proposed later separately as
> > an improvement for the next major version.
>
> Agreed, that's definitely a change that can have a large impact. I
> will open a separate thread later.
>
> > As a simpler alternative, would it make sense for walsender to call
> > XLogFlush(GetXLogInsertRecPtr()) instead of XLogBackgroundFlush() during
> > shutdown? I'm not sure why walsender currently uses XLogBackgroundFlush().
> > If there isn't a clear reason for that choice, directly calling XLogFlush()
> > might be the simpler solution. Thought?
>
> That sounds like a good solution. I've tried it and it fixes the
> issue. And this only changes the shutdown behaviour in the walsender.
>
> The use of XLogBackgroundFlush() has been introduced with
> c6c333436491, but there's no mention why it was specifically used. I
> guess the assumption was that a change would either be flushed with a
> commit, or tracked by async LSN through rollback, so
> XLogBackgroundFlush() would always write pending records. But this
> turns out to be false in the case of this bug.
>
> I've updated the patch with this approach.
Thanks for updating the patch!
Barring any objections, I will commit the patch and backpatch it to
all supported branches.
Regards,
--
Fujii Masao
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